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I am Kevin Kelly I'm from Simpson's estate University and Today I will be talking with John Whitmer and Kathy Fernandes were close to all citizens they were to CSU she go and are working for the CSU Chancellor's Office . and so said together again and talk about that past present future . well it's a Time slash of court . they weren't out of the past present future of what we've been doing as system and a lot of your here representing yourselves as teachers for individual classes or you might be here representing the campus in the capacity of fact we Director . faculty Development Director What Media somebody who might be an armchair team . an administrator . perhaps the summer you may be here . and I know in Wyoming at least we talked yesterday that they're thinking about things as a system how can we create economies of scale . how can we leverage the work that's being done to the way not repeating were an with tools like Moodle and other open source initiatives . there is already a mindset where you're encouraged to work together seven . can we build other things around but Governance like . shared efforts projects things like that . so I'll take it off with them . some of the world . what led to where we are now and then all handed over to Captain John . so . for those of the that are not familiar to California State University system . we are one of the largest if not the largest university systems in the country We have twenty three campuses . which is smaller than eight hundred nine hundred and ten to Unique olives . independent state but we have forty and fifty thousand roughly four to thirty four to fifty thousand students on forty four thousand faculty and staff really diverse the might campus alone . we have a hundred eight languages other than English spoken is the first one which at home . and I campus and most of the CSU camps is the student's work I think the markets are eighty percent of the students' work at least half time . so we have a really diverse set of students and stay and we are playing a vital role with respect the economy one of the project uses that for every dollar spent for of CSU steam returns back four dollars to the state and revenue taxes things like that . so . that the twenty colleges spread of and on the stage and she goes one of the farthest north and ten the ADA is one of the farthest south and everything in between were a Smackdown in the middle can send us a and like the scene the speaker yesterday said were just blocks away from Sensing State University so it can still walk on campus it's beautiful . and the library was done in conjunction with the city of Santa say which is a really neat project in which with all the Ferrari library construction budget . and I'm Explore here to win the get out maybe seventy five thousand courses per semester and last year roughly forty percent of those reported they had online component . neither the might they were talking about doing this as a system that we have our act together . everything's good or a . last year we had a twenty eight different server installations on twenty different Campuses ten different versions or more of those are what we know about . at least four different platforms . so you can see that you know . representing the diversity of this case . we also represent diversity in how we Active break . so . early on in the days of yore we had its three year . chances are so forecasts is that we're or the Early adopter chances again yesterday she showed they adoption curve many of you are familiar with that . I will go into the hike cycle because I don't I don't believe the all time . um but in terms of the Early adopter chances are campus and a humble Campus started roughly the same time two thousand four investigating alternatives . two commercial system and we both and switched over when the contract ended in June two thousand seven . and then shortly thereafter Monterey day doing that little group and to Maritime because they're a very small campus was able to move more quickly . I like to make the analogy of the armada versus the English it in which it just so quick they can avoid the rocks well . Maritime was able to make that decision may go on a cruise to teach their students . navigate it . Dr Bowden then come back get by the fall they were using Moodle for of cell . this stuff . also some fortitude minds tonight a quick transition but that being said we started and I was even stated last night at dinner that we had a quick meeting in the middle and humble showdown Monterey Bay and Maritime and sentences go all to see snow mud and we had a meeting of the chances office branch there called the Center for student learning . and we had maybe six people and talk about how can we do this more intelligent how can we start working together . and that he could and came from the fact that we would have started our little endeavors as a competitive model . Humboldt and sentences Collecting said We're working with Moodle same time we're working on the same projects at the same time we were building a new agreement because we don't like the great effect in two thousand six . and so as possible and we weren't doing another project related to of Documentation and so is humble . so we were really I'm thinking strategically we were trying to do . the game that economy of scale . so and we moved towards Cropper to model in the middle of our project . where we were these holding each other with the things that were causing problems and we agreed not to work on the same things because we found that to be counterproductive or at least spending a lot of time on things that were being done twice and now we're in space where we're really trying to hit our stride with respect to collaboration . we on recently and would care more about a project where sentences to state created hundred and fifty hundred and sixty . Guides which are open to the whole world so here's to Quick Guides dot calstate dot the in that subset of Moodle help documents that we created for campus . I had become frustrated as manager the team were six different people were creating these were documents and one person it seems to a common element like would say that yet six or seven different poll documents about how to use the forum . well the first step in all of those lists click the button that says you know . edit a former whatever well he changed language and once in order the consistent yet to change at all those documents and costly reference to make sure they were so I talked on our programmers may said . you know In ph PMI sequel can we just build a database thing where we change it once then it changes all of things is to step in the US share so we got the for campus and another CSU campuses that were using little said . can we do that too . and so . now we revamp the system so that Multiple Campuses can use the same . how Documentation and we are going on the eighty twenty . said eighty percent of the time that content is going to be the same across the chances were trying to piece get toward the same . Kuhn version that was our goal for the last year and so it's in the fall will be moving toward job one nine nine all of us and them and then down the road their benefits perhaps are moving to the scene Code itself . and again now be discussed by my colleagues . but the that are right now is that we're working with the camp system would add in all . what can we see in order to make this Quick Guides system more effective for Multiple Campuses and the project has also led us to play how can we show the training that were doing things and so we really have to move from a competitive model model to Collaborative model to fully Collaborative . snow I'm going to pass the baton to Kathy Fernandes can talk about where we are now with respect to the the the work into . . the morning . the Slide saga will get about where we were out what point this is actually two thousand and tens current demographics . we have eleven Genesis and around Blackboard . that isn't needed committed to them there may be some that are going to go into evaluation and there are some that are very committed to the British environment that they fill the house . but as you can see media quickly moved from having a few campuses to now we have seven in Moodle production again with a few that are considering I'm looking at Moodle going forward . for those and even though it CTN and software learning management system the product is . well so that is two thousand thirteen plan to be dead . and so that's what CC campuses know that they needed a choice to and we have won campus on his are to learn another one who's right in the middle of getting ready to announce that . where their own . so therein is an unprecedented amount of change . we consider that learning management systems unit started depending on your campus of the nineteen ninety nine and two thousand one . and Miles people have stayed with what they are have been this that has significantly changed everybody migrating in . everybody knows what Migration means right . so what what has happened is because of the change and because of little encouraging your community and Collaborative of working together . the existing video lot of synergy happening of months the campuses particular those Moving to Moodle and need to talk with each other and leverage one another's experience and skill so once again we're not all discover and twenty three different times now . and from a very big picture perspective again he's CSU Campus functions as its own campus some of them are residential smuggler commuters them are small Summary Larsen are a role some argument called in you might say . and and everybody was having their own conversation Other and high with their own information the second and RFP of course in St . so from a Chancellor's Office Perspective we decided we're going to do one RFP . but in our to make sure we got a right to make sure that we had full of engagement of the campuses . we Shows first of June RFI request for information . where . legal is not indifferent representatives from different CSU Campus is again some of the main thing will some of them Open source and proprietary . this RFI together . said About Us the vendors to send information back . we ask for Open source of the vendors who are hosting Open source answer the question . Marshall was biased within the CSU perspective . of that RFI been gave us information about learned this from our White well we know with this product that this is true over inherent in ask question about that or some Russians were not to ask very mostly and three we got were not really what we're looking for . the RFP so that we did the RFP process . an in with the representatives from campus and that of course and a little bit more about RFP specific process but . after going through all of that we and he's now had twenty three campuses that have the same information . and when that process a lot of discussion happening in different levels CIO the records academic technology to that librarians exception . and so that obviously stimulated again at least some kind for rallying Incoming together rather than twenty three places twenty three different conversations . many in two thousand and nine we officially have stamped a CSU . Elements strategy in on all LMS . s . because it's not just bought a learning management system to see a graphic later about what we're thinking it's really about Services . and so as Alan Learning Management Systems and Services and what can we used together . I in going forward for the roadmap for the CSU . and as that officially as of Tuesday and we have lost for the first time a learning management system Governance for the whole CSU System . this will not be a take a kind of thing and we will not be on one instance of one piece of software . again that's not the environment the CSU . however as far as I'm never inter say again coming together and governing the kinds of project and Collaboration and priorities and choices to use the Straits of particular CSU has the leverage of course all this straight together for the CSU Sundance is obviously have more resources than others each environment is different as far as you know where they specialize . and then them of course like our era middle of on the Collaborative Projects will talk about some of them . the sun . this is really a process and if I had enough time and a lot of trafficking Ability only basis for a bunch of bubbles . but any guide the appropriate it campuses engage from the different environments and perspectives in order to talk to one another . you know again we're twenty three CSU Zinni's as the case Higher Education were all very busy . so we don't often spend a lot of time listening to each other . we got our own environments to deal with . and so yes between RFI and RFP process was opportunity to come together in Share Nicholas are and how different things are and why a different campus for making different decisions . one size does not fit all . we invited the United doing the RFP process . anybody can write anything gray . and so we knew that will be RFP is one thing but how has the product actually function is another thing we are obviously in another dimension . and so he asked the vendors that we had selected from the RFP process which . I don't remember exactly what the numbers were going to say well you know fourteen responses some of whom were immediately or not Kyra educational or not . Enterprise learning management systems . Savvy ended up one five . the and I'm and then we asked each of those that were selected to come to the presentation where we gave them the script . we don't want your dot com a show . we want explicitly what we're looking for in the criteria that we are making decisions on . and I you know the interesting thing about about was the first thing was for them to login and via accessibility . you're disabled Staying had a long and . every single one of them slightly way around . so that was an immediate a heads up and down the city's you'd been around Blackboard CSU gets a lot of credit because they actually conveyed the RFP the first time based on accessibility . and so it's as though is really important to California State University . and that's so again there was a place where you can say whatever you want in the documentation by asking them to perform script that none of them can perform other side of job we knew that we then had to do together as the CSU to say . we're not can it accept something that's not sensible was a clear sign to all of the company's about that . I'm so then the key thing about that is again we didn't want just want were not going to dictate from Chancellor's Office found that the campuses . and so we actually created what we call and the A's which are essentially umbrella contrasts with the vendors or the Open source course the UN . vendors and that basically then the chances office has done their process sn said LMS is usually a large purchase . we have done the appropriate care and process we have the appropriate contact CSU can either head on . and therefore that AC three campuses say I want one of those and only a to do is to rewrite the purchase order and a little scope of work so from a Chancellor's Office perspective we are a state energy Focus by doing it at the top and then letting the campuses from their site which Contact they would like to engage in . what happens then . you have a nice for vendors are open source vendors for hosting Al Ed . well I wanted triad out . my have you campus . it launched around ideas . well they can in some of them have resources that gasoline one tool in the desert thousand people one of the on time books you know what is contained . but as many of you know about within Higher Education academic affairs and the appropriate Director Academic Technology are personally learning management system may not get iTunes he's support . in their timing so you know again different dynamics different culture different politics . Baldelli then chose to do was have of what we call collapse . for the vendors we ask them to please put up an inauguration server and that would allow the CSU said they chose goal of proprietary systems that can play without up to us there on the people decide upon the server . and then on the vendors idea what the vendors . anti-Syrian Edwin allow sky . and so on using of the little post defender ask them to put up for the whole CSU time it would continue to be used the from the moment that we watched that Florida server . you know the eyes of ten faculty attend courses has been using over time is each campus . does that little affective looking at that and they may still News that server so that also provides of similar environment from one to another guy discussing what they discovered with a live the issues they have found Integrations a single sign on in lots of discussions around server . so to what didn't System wide RFP for the CSU . Elevated the LMS discussions across the whole system . and in ways visibility on the Enterprise issues of the learning management system again there are different resources within the CSU and still be able to save me . we don't CSU level that these products aren't the enterprise Onassis . obviously again having Same information Touching on the same aspects . and he basically the purchasing simpler because you can't was already has a job in going through Invited which process so that leads from the interim administrative side of things we hope to have cut out a lot of frenzy . so that stuff and after that last hour we actually got a group together the LMS Futures Group made up of promos you know represent the fact of the U . not represent faculty themselves as partners station and leadership . the CIO is course are the support for the system of to serve them every CSU Campus . and faculty from the academic Senate . and it's a long time . lot of discussion lot of perspectives lot of different views but again you know it feels like a snail's pace to most the CSU people and myself . however again in ways that discussions you most proud was personally not had a career read actively learning management system . learning that this is more when he ten years old son how to raise the discussions and glossary terms of the understandings and visions . having discussions . and so on we created four documents Critical Elements . you know what is it the CSU should make decisions about Channel Open source proprietary Advantages Disadvantages Integrations being very important specially PeopleSoft Integrations CSU sector . we came up with recommendations on how to afford and one of the Recommendations was pleased Governance . and that of course . what was then probably most difficulties you can Kenobi now finally has a common . Coulter happening regarding the LMS still have to see IOC will focus on spinning disks . the directors and academic technology to need to focus on Migration training faculty identity of librarians who want to integrate Miller and still have decentralized system . lots of conversations happening going entirely different directions and so on . it you know it's as difficult to organize and communicate amongst all of those different levels and unique and instead of saying learning management system these letter to all those groups because you need not be speaking from US language we are sending out to the techies right and vice versa . tell our gardens look something like this . PTSD use the other discipline Technology steering Committee which is seven presidents of . campuses . and then of course is the executive vice Chancellor's who are the Chancellor's Office and courses in our side Money budget direction priority in a high level . Strategy area we have two committees the first thirty ATSC it stands for Academic Technology steering Committee . and there are four for promos enforce CIO on that as well as the leader of the academic Senate and they had these and his sponsors . they need once a month . they discussed to topics and . they can go and you know considering threats of Online Education learning management systems and whatever . I'd say half the discuss on the right hand side which easy their theses the Academic Council which means one representative one provost from every single campus . and I that is the Information Technology Advisory Committee which are the twenty three CR those . and so well basically say it's ATAC . there any representative of the Academic Council and the stand by attack but obviously there needs to be Communication to make sure the representations ATSC is representing the appropriate CIO Zoom from Los . moving one level down . campus learning management system in service corps Nader's and really more progress we are calling it the standards and practices group . is that the as group that is really the focus down the LMS words an hour and half a month it's not going to get it for learning management system . Systems and Services on the right hand side you have a tax which is made up mostly of Faculty but also provost directors of academic technology and the CSS a really or representation of this in groups A and A . if the standards and practices around the LMS are going to be discussed are we're representing the faculty and students around system . course each person who is on the standards and practices group represents the cameras and we hope that are talking about faculty and students about what kind standards and practices in Rome or to go forward . the bottom layer there is actually implementation which means those people with their feet on the ground has gotten make it happen to know what the real issues are faculty private with him Faculty Development reading Integrations vendors Center . and so on and of course the CSU has at use are heavily Blackboard and and tool so that CINC common interest group . we'll have a Governance group but in-form little time will get a little more tighter and this is in what direction we like to go together . and that someone discuss that in only one Outside groups in other words people are Instructional Designers didn't discuss how they can work together of people who are the in the training aspect will come training serious condition are . I mean in others and US interests if you're nasty sure that you're interested in how might using that within my learning management systems lots of troops there . we're just now starting to implement this . this is very immature and not well practiced yet or to be exercising it . and then of course we have a little bit of Chancellor's Office at of which includes myself and John and our goal is just the facilitate this discussion . he Information and Communication progress moving forward . the Times . J . so again reminder for we stand all of the scam is why we did not feel that we could start . Governance committee with twenty three points . that would be like . we are going and snow Paste the study and molasses . so we decided that we needed to have a phased Governance implementation . and your to do that little campuses are very Synergize quiz each other as far as lots of wounded lots of discussion lots of ways that they're assisting of the each other and one and lots of discussions about what can I expect very soon . so he decided we were launching the dual standards and practices grew at a audio and eventually get Blackboard also to have their standards and practices group . ideally those to come together because it should be something like this . the California State University system has can be called the affordable learning solution . it doesn't matter what elements are and we wanted no identity . were you for learning solution to your LMS . Libraries We don't care Elements you have what we do here is that your Integrated Design and then we'll get to the point where the standards and practices group doesn't matter what Elements you have right now we're starting out in because those are the pockets we can start rehearsing and exercising in a way that Governance actually means . so I didn't know . the diversity . some people are self Jose . some people discuss can you hold me week in the CSU . and we're we haven't are hosted Hands On to be that way to CSU regarding some campuses do not have the right T support all or don't want the rights he Support Center as the hosted and others are always a nice of posted doesn't have the resources and capabilities do that and they get take their destiny much closer in their own hands . so . how can we say together . and regarding hosting that will work currently discussing with OUT while some campuses are posted on rooms . we want still not being rooms version of Moodle . we want the CSU version of Moodle . so any assault . whether a Assistant campuses hosting you are whether you are posted for to use the same . codebase and future again is that a lot conversation lot initiation . lots of buzz in the tourney How resources to work together . that I talked example of the guys we also from a Chancellor's Office that are level on site license to live dot com button will modules so now all CSU have access to the dot-com country they're from . None and eighty and ninety campus has expertise in different areas and Monterey Bay is working on will formally file the actual of Integration happening from Chancellor's Office perspectives with it into the All CSU averted in leveraging NASA let's get the little using similar with a common CSU Integration . I know lots of things that you see there are Migration Tools can recollect them because of course one campus to use their migration tool was for the next campus would like to leverage that . and then educational practices you know your time . course . Teaching metrics . from the Blackboard System Tools System will be something entirely different because it hits you and pages different based on how each of those are actually Vol . the idea is edit your Moodle can as we come up with a standard set of metrics so that we have for the CSU see the progress that we're me . so those are some areas that we're currently working on together No IT . common places that we have discussions move forward and do a twenty three times ten times in the media . I'm . while he has wide licensing for the CSU regarding respond is turning the and we're talking now about conferencing and as lecture . lecture capture II talked about the end of the dot com . Cheney is that the are working on Outsourcing sums up and In sourcing of a meeting a Humboldt hasn't Reader . raising rules so that a humble resources being bought out by via CSU Studio trainer . so there are ways we continue to do that within the CSU that's what we're looking for . and that's and John Whitmer Lone Works for me in on the dollar on future . . one . one of them deciding to couple things the principles are points that are leading our effort as we move forward that we keep in mind all the time that I think make this project . interesting valuable and also pretty challenging from the perspective of this the campuses participating in this is Courtney . the first is that we're following a model from UCLA . a lot of the they happen See CLB project . that accord needed middle environment that we are following where they had independent departments there are so on and that's that they're often just like independent campuses in the is a principle called for to needed the time I think that's than the actual term that they're CIO uses in so that is they that this Courtney that autonomy teams that we've respect in valuable contributions individual campuses and make and the role of the System wide organization is that we try the support facilitate Courtney . the work that's being done on campus so that we can raise the level that everyone is at that that level that that idea ice in support of what already exists is very large contingent happy in my mind in those in the middle Consortia and In frankly we also don't want to pretend or how to appear to have an ego that we think we know what is right especially when in the CSU system in for pulling on you know as Kevin mentioned there's a lot of rich experience and knowledge is already there that we want to hold on and we need to build on . if we try to do something different if we try to impose from about it that that's an effort that's against the closure and technically would say we know that from the beginning so that's part of our our approach moving forward is that we are there to close support facilitate in Identified Project We think that Benefit to the other systems and working in cooperation with other stakeholders . yet there is that this is an evolutionary approach . we are not starting from ground zero we're not Define first principles again an imposing them . we are building on a very rich effort in that part of the Open source I think on and the Open source attitude or approach is that you don't start from ground zero . you don't start thinking that you're going to be the first person in the race . you're building on a very large and rich history of what already exists so that evolutionary approach that we are we're part of history that we want to contribute to is also something that is very large for us that that are kind of in the first why here is that we do not see the LMS and we happy I every time present this we say what we need a new acronym to anybody's really did a visual metaphor . the presentation of the so LMSS is our impoverished African . . and it stands for . but I learning management services and learning management systems in service this . so the US I die and here we hope Emphasize is that this is not just about the technical elements of having LMS functionality working . and so just having him he system up and running . obviously if you're tools system goes down and nothing else matters Faculty Development is ineffective on a system that's out . but you need that but that's the starting point . but in we need to grow and build from there . and so and this is our lead because this project in the CSU has been led it I will and the academic technology services division series and released . so we have is very much and academic technology approach on that . this set a Recognize assault get into this year so that we think that the Korean be on us . so we got what are the solutions why do licensing issues we need to work through What's the hosting . and then but that below that are a number of other things become the low the LMS more than a and not from below is an not it's worthwhile but more of an infrastructure element thinking about their party Integrations right Building in Web conferencing you staff the building and respond is uncharted an INS your LMS you have to have the LMS functions that with our impulses now a new media consider that the forward help desk support in cases training didn't quite get people everything they needed at questions you need to have that support there . and then identity management for us were fortunate that similar civil it was be implemented across the CSU but having a single sign on the night he met with in any of our ERP systems in within the law . it is a critical element of making a successful . said out more on the infrastructure side and then on the top is where the friendly it will get us really site is people and academic technology is thinking about the educational practices . this enables how can we change Teaching and Learning saying we have this many courses we have this many hits we had this many users and that excites probably most of the semester and it excites me is it looking look at the broker . well when you get outside of our offices in Utah Faculty Utah to proceed topic president of the president's it while it get . well what it is doing well how is this changing teaching and learning what is the and that's what we aspire to . so that's each year in it he can Ability for learning outcomes I think is thinking about how you use the LMS active . also our faculty into the training is critical and something that can be leveraged . I'm pretty straightforwardly mentioned Quick Guides a number of times when the dot-com modules and especially since we're standardize in on one version of the LMS again that for on the and you can do . common training materials much easier because that something were to waste future now that are in replicating materials for the San Solutions . so in an Instructional of the course and Curriculum Design and we are fortunate in the CSU to have Instructional Designers and most of our campuses . and multiple Instructional Designers how faculty Design forces because we know that you know . well design courses and more many it is not and I'm minus had and I it comes from good Instructional Designers . so we have that we know that we want to leverage that across the CSU as well . said that all surrounded entered for the first time . then we have the gold circle around the outside didn't know was told and told to stay . now . they the project coronation gray there's probably class it's going to peers . I'm . they are thinking about this that Governance Administration Communications again uses for joining an existing stream and send Barry Richard Robots campuses . we we need to do this in a very sophisticated fashion they had shared Governance and respects Multiple institutions in Governance we Need More than a Guides report right this is more than campuses say you know this is an idea you might want to have this is saying you know your were planned for next year includes the following deliver office in a period . these are the nature to be Evaluate by . so those are the things that we aspire to and then it Ministry and a communications the class is you all now . oftentimes the time to conferences like this to learn but the person down the hall is right here on campus . and so I made the game was in no efforts in own across the twenty three CSU is is is that is an aunt radio at this point people say so . them were on this coming year . so I have to identify the criteria that we know are going to work on in the House and questions that the and things that we're trying to resolve that are in our right now . so first is Governance implementation and revision as Kathy mentioned this is the first time we tried this kind of governance and we think it is a significant asked we know we're going to try this out and we are going to be revising that Where are not saying we know he . so we're moving toward make a common legal codebase to standardize and we are have standardized to Removing this summer to standardize it . Cross the Middle campuses on one not nine not nine but over the coming here we will be signing requirements in the forward we to a common code is use across the CSU that is our Whitney include features in an developed by Campuses likes and consistent States for eight but has won a lot of people are very excited about on and there are others should let Integration on there . there are indications that we eat including that codebase said adding that Code is another big deliver of all we have for this year and considering that within the next hosted hosting In Ryan Pit . when we develop that there are campuses and as Patty mentioned it's going to be so hosted immediately and sternly hosted or Campus NATO's for someone else . we're not going to have one shopping everything goes their one one Center for that one testing location . Integrations We talked about will be a part of that work and to build on that more Semester are details that you go on and Migration entry . a good looking of the slide in the existing campuses in New on those situation where he did files in Blackboard again make Migration in on trivial task . I'm so we're going to need to work on that not something that can be leveraged across the system very well . so we are thinking about Anna for further down the road activities shared help desk and support them in some very good examples of System wide on help desk created by campuses collaborating in Connecticut distance learning Consortium the set very well for Advising of Indiana to the bottom here and other activities that Governance Identifies . so as we are in a governor model we think that there will be and it's that Governance to leave the way this Campus led government and well he did it for this access or so . and viewers weight keeps us up and I Étais . so I'm me a sense Dugdale during the day . so the process for comment today . so creating Code is not just getting you know I just getting that are really well written go to the end of the day . you get there that process of software development . he any is challenging and so commercial vendors to do requirements Analysis you have Development at QA at all disciples in the others in the campuses . requires the campuses do that different . so what is the change management framework we're going to agree to it to create that . how do we do quality assurance to ensure that every campus gets a better coach than a half break now . I had is that he dell me that threshold . you lose in campuses . there are our strongest campuses will not participate is that in a degree there . by participating in this in Saudi do all that define requirements in doing all that in a the centralized environment is on it work campuses choose to participate if they want . so Readiness and participation requirements . this is also one of intrigue your point . so yes this is the participate . I'm getting behind Services donating their time up there . faculty members . blurb will be requesting or require him that cash contribution the or will this be for you . anybody who comes in participate . but in doing that in an environment where we at campuses with Barry . I'm not need note he's rich red but we have more robust in experience campuses in Riyadh campuses that have you know a person driving them know instance you know hundred Index not . but you know that on the . in the Instructional Designers one person running the LMS is part of the with campuses with no Instructional Designers and Notre academic technology . so what do you just tell them to that . King haven't you were doing all this work and you know you'll need to stop hurting your students into a Tool nobody wants to do that but so that sounds good to one support that campus right well what about campuses that have Thierry Full-time programmers . you need eighteen themselves to developing Code is getting somebody else's require cs . why should they . so you and bring those two together . that's that's the challenge that we face to make this Erin beneficial for every participating again . so Defining economic value and metrics on believing that this effort will are we hold of be some cost savings that that's not our primary objective . the primary objective is to increase the value of the investments that are made . so that we we know that LMS Usage can and will increase in on our campuses and we so the expectation that we're going increase the usage increased the resources and and decrease the money it the same time is not tangible for wide keep everyone exactly where they were might be a ballistics among . but all the camps is one increased usage and they have lots of ideas for how to do that so that you measure that increase in value in a way that will make sense to our stakeholders to our Robots to our president especially at the current time provide . I'm selling and and said doing that and also had an effective metrics . they are not NCLB like metrics before nobody hears from that administration but it's thinking about you know whatever valuable metrics that you measure progress that we get to define that Governance gets to define need to look at that . the that an elated it's real tangible in action measures are bolts and then a communication plan so addressing diverse stakeholders and I but you're not funny and she of without attending every meeting because there's lots of meetings lots of people interested in this project . all of them would like to get in as well . so that's not the kind of flights to the act and I would like to have an ISO about how can you effectively communicate with all of those people in in seriously get there . that's from Governance the party that's from Gary them effective communications and that's part of what we think that that three . so I think that's a game where . just about that time but we have time for questions is the next session Doesn't Stars on Saturday . so as soldiers cannot be met . pulling SF States . I the in the immediate question from a the virtual audience so . OK . . . the URL for Quick Guides in its Quick Guides dot calstate dot EU . Étais . it was a list was a in person question and was a the experts or question and then let us know what one of access was granted to funWhat . . . . . moreover . I know Sought on my computer that we as vendors to do . and of . I'm not sure I didn't get enough specifics to mean Erickson things everybody would say as far show me your interface and eleven eighteen AM John Pohl and we also gave them content that we wanted them to uploaded into their course and so we had Swiss based on the content we gave them we asked them to do specific things with the content . if you want to retain based on the email address here . I'd be happy to say to the script and have a conversation about that Kate Fernandes it seems to cheaper than you . and Virtual Iron ore time . Breyer the virtual sensitive This is an online community . . . 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I would say they hear that that are having a second change management process right is that he or to have this core Code and everyone does that do except if you're going to use the court go to use these pieces are using the In branch often have your own independent those outside but you know that you know call the number on the phone way out there . there to blend and that also means that you're Campus better for you for to that and and you go off your own thing and that's the key thing Friday any you know in some sense the apex is really and for right now for the Collaboration first the budget . it is totally you for adding that valued the John talked about . people are and what are going place else because they can take all the resources that we have is a whole CSU and do it on campus . the reason why you know not every Campus will accept every effort we is again they are different campuses they have different needs different cultures and and so you'll never get I don't need that we and want him to say I have to have that week . yes . just one more thing from a Campus perspective . so Moodle built in a way that rather than an Moodle stance or modular we know that there are some things that are as much as we'd like for the times of being that not every campus has to use every modular Block he can turn those things out that the administration level at three Campus Center that we Slide the bug fixes which everybody will benefit from some of the larger projects would be things that we would find that things have the greatest benefit for its relevance . making a widget that makes a flying your crotch Explain what to find something that improves the Gradebook which we know is one of the largest issues that people face with one so and then getting what we did last time in that Cooperative face before we got this I collaboration as the last time Synthesis to stay . Gates didn't and I integrate what we said the same but the questionnaire that we didn't with fifteen of our faculty to Hubble and Monterey Bay so they that's their faculty members were things that they wanted Teaching said that what know what we're doing . what about you across Multiple Campuses are expected YouTube some sort of across the seas like that where we're engaging with the camps to identify the needs and make Changes and structured way and there may be some aspects of compromise . we will be twenty three campuses right now we're at that and seven to nine Perry and might be more by the end of this academic year . but we're that we're talking about finding the relative value and said you know again I use the word armada before . and some of the the writer campuses but with fewer faculty and and can move more quickly may have slowed down a little bits of the larger campuses to move along with them but that they get a benefit like they were saying that some of the that the cost benefits of not having to hire people for certain tasks . Serwer This is something that we're going to figure out over time and you know maybe next year will be giving a presentation were worried that we pay more . about a Course gentleman . we can . . and . we are starting with the way for the A's to open source community and whether or not this is something we we haven't really seen certain elements of the good life Integration of the country sixty cents discuss taking the stuff earlier this year . so of that with I think . ideally that would be what we do but I think I was before a process that to waste our Governance and how that's going to take place . it doesn't make sense especially since for Pablo Open source CSU design give back and so we will but again seven system as build the basis Rate now . again you know where does that end up as far as what works Editing Well we're changing what we're doing but we didn't expect engagement will not or die . and I would add to that where we where are . I've . I I I would I would hope that we don't create a branch of the month of where we're to reinstate making sure that were closely aligned with community that were that you know moving often a different direction and one Click the slide . that's my own course . the display . yes let's all say publicly as a publicly funded system again getting back is something that we need to do was well it's part of that mission part of our values . so it's more because you'll aspect it's also the thoughts that the lesson here . we are or what for him . . the goal . there is often are based . . Stanislaus . yes . good morning you joined the discussion with the other thirteen campuses that are discussing will and we have been of very wise resource amongst each other . I don't even for sale answer that and actually we should get specific enough or Stanislaus as far Use Your interest your thoughts your direction of stock haven't won to encourage engagement with the other campuses about that because you are defined by its rich resources to help you decide . again goals early in well these make sense for us but these don't . so you know there's there's a lot please answer that question in my that no one the gate . . and we have created was John who with bubbles on a sheet of paper yesterday that the pathway going from Evaluation to pile into newly adopted to mature adoption or think that will hold adoption . when they were sure does not apply to people like these . I know . the even trying to do is help other kids who stuff is no reason to make you reinvent the wheel or even the Stanislaus once and again having out there . faculty members and that might have been that a server that some of the best right now . and now you're ready to move into that Evaluation faced as a campus as opposed to the Department answer then we have a number of camps is that are in it now that are more recently aware that this use and but you know we've we can share documents related to the Focus groups that we have with faculty well we are considering changing systems and that these are agnostic to that we have a matrix in a concrete of common stock in that debate Created with a faculty member about the process when you're investigating change for any technology avoiding of System particular history perspectives as the teaching and learning perspectives . there's the technology manager Perspective animals work in a small organization with the station Perspective and each of those perspectives we have some common questions that we think of fit in different categories like Scale Ability or security or risks and . you know . accessibility all the different Relay twenty given issues and three homes in a matrix of questions that you can the season started framework to have people on campus help you answer that might help the Chiefs solution . and then once you get there . I like the word transition better than Migration because Migration vice are going back get some point but the birds of this follows . so that's my personal belief and that are less language with a question . it's been . . . . . . we sell their wares and twenty chances other class that deliver online classes courses hybrid classes versus using as a way to add . technology enhancements to face-to-face class . yes yes . . and also . Perspective and then send over to my colleagues but I would say no . learning systems in my mind's do three things really well they lie to share content . and that's two way street students faculty faculty students and sometimes example another freeway intersection with experts from the field . but then facilitate interactivity with different tools and start and end of assess steeper formats are allow them to assess themselves and those are all the all around the learning objectives and other things like that . so what are you getting those are the face-to-face setting for you during those and Hybrid sitting on Online sitting here still setting up but an environment where students can go and get things what I call one stop shopping for learning and so it system level to which again he used learning management system are goals as the people behind the scenes time will be to make sure that the system is as robust as possible to meet the needs of people that might be doing more fully online things but as you might have heard yesterday we had a features of learning management system and only talked about how integrate with other tools of learning as an assistant Self doesn't have to do everything in all of people like to of with the monolithic approach and more on . no . but the people versus the bizarre type metaphors of people used to . Reviewed We did have some campuses of course were extended LearningThe of the digital programs on a different LMS the main campus . it's not we want to ignore them so if there is a mission there . but yes I would say for the CSU . the majority of the campuses are mostly on campus . yes we have Online Degree Programs absolutely . but and the CSU talking about what can we do more for the on line as far as the CSU kind of strategy of the battle and that discussion is behind Elements strategy of course because the new deliver fully online education without having gone all the states . yes . . . not . I'm . and I'm class . why . the . one . four . this is statewide . we are all . Oh whatever . what we're talking about . four . many into one . yes . he expects get all campuses and my present silly or Transitions . eventually is this a distance of one LMS mean when I do not expect that to my people the chances office who disagree with that says they think it's more cost effective . but I using that to happen a lot of systems in tax is are they to do that . and they decided and technology cannot handle it now . if anybody knows of an arm as they can handle four hundred and thirty three thousand students let me know . that's in contrast will be . . . it's a yes . it all . solution is . words . the dollar . the of the month . it is not one . once No . while this . we call it and they everybody . what is she all twenty three are different well we the way he different but also to the masses and whatever and Scale is everybody is on one standardized this is it platform . and again I was in Problem the ordinance easy as the difficult years the idea that can know about you speak specifically little County doubt about it work people may need to do this again and said certain blocks or plugins because that's what they're environment needs . but that as a majority because we are adding value to the codebase that people want to be a part of this Consortia . yes . . will . said that I . for tool easy . he died I know . actually version of Blackboard is a significant difference on how easy or difficult is to migrate . well yes and presenter and they have to drill down technologically I was first of Wednesday's your Blackboard your Using a ton about some of my their lives were documents that are uploaded or a talk about one schools within the learning management systems so that has a different technological solution . there is more questions in the back . for his role in Iraq and now . yes yes yes . virtual question . . . nine and the . the CSU only again we're working on strategy and CSU goals Services CSU numbers and . day Well is CSU person SL they had won email Address London edit them and that is not open and open discussion . yes . it . Osias use our most Okemos the Chancellor's Office will say eventually everyone will be in the campuses will say yesterday . twenty three different Integrations of people software LMSS . the stock . how much we Integrating it into Melinda question of when . we were . well the smart campuses . more Many all bases where a large campuses light or break choose one of the third largest city in I said we cannot tolerate that it must become automatic . and it's being worked on right now . . yes . I'm not . . yes that is no lessons Regardless No . cons . for Initial initiate about how we finally get to sharing this Practices in the educational . stay with the government's we already said are using get to that point . then we needed that Synergy ruling and no we haven't done it yet but we're not losing sight of that pace of the question . yes . analysts say the number of CSU camps is that participated in this conference alone as a starter so . next year the Moodle moves . we can encourage more faculty members to share what they're doing so that they're not just technology base Presentations but also pedagogical based on Presentations one of which you might find that and thirty by guiding haven't yet the identity the as yet . and . . if you will . sharing courses across CSU right to a degree completion were to bring Programs right . and I would say yes that has been discussed and of course he's and he will talk about rule rules rules for an item of anybody is has a that our combined embedded in ideal but the point is that people are about that I think it'll be a little while . cons Get a lot more hurdles than technology gets reviewed . . back before this whole initiative that are starting we have one professor from Southern California drive over the Spring Break to all twenty three campuses and the Flyers for students to sign up for this really exciting class and that students to show up . online for the class so . and there are strategies Know were not at that level of the Connecticut distance learning Consortium Well we have a centralized is for people going click away but I'm I would say that you know we . it's not serious not one Republican closer to zero right now but it is that they would be a fantastic future can be of office . 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